for example, i've been saying to you all that governor romney has embraced the ryan budget. well, he has. i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have a congressman saying no, i don't have the position or that's not the governor's position. so it's mainly getting the factual predicates for everything that common key issues on which governor romney has spoken and congressman ryan has added. so thank you all. >> vice president making his comments last week. jonathan martin as we wrap up with the, why change from denver to danville, kentucky, in terms of the obama campaign and approaching these debates? >> they will want a much more aggressive forward leading joe biden than have in the president last week. joe biden does not have imperative to the presidential. he will be more a traditional attack dog, and so remarkable steve, and the clip you just played, the leading joe biden used about romney embracing ryan's positions, and that gets to my earlier point about this is a unique campaign with democratic, take it is a as much as vice presidents policy